FLOAT 100 · Comics · No. 79
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #8
A toy company wanted a reason to put every Marvel hero in one box; the answer was a 12-issue comic in which Spider-Man walked into an alien machine and walked out in a black suit that would one day be called Venom.
- Year
- 1984
- Maker
- Marvel Comics
- By price in comics
- 78 of 100
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- December 1984
- Series
- Issue 8 of 12, Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars, May 1984 to April 1985
- Creators
- Writer Jim Shooter; penciller Mike Zeck, who also drew the cover; inks by John Beatty, Jack Abel and Mike Esposito
- Key
- Spider-Man acquires his black costume, the alien symbiote that later becomes Venom
- Costume idea
- Bought from fan Randy Schueller of Norridge, Illinois, for $220
- This entry
- CGC 9.8
- CGC census, September 2021
- 4,101 copies at 9.8 and 26 graded higher
- Related record
- Original art for story page 25 sold for $3,360,000 on January 13, 2022
A comic built for a toy line
In the mid-1980s the toy company Mattel planned action figures of Marvel's most popular characters and needed a story that would explain why they had all gathered in one place. Marvel's editor-in-chief Jim Shooter answered with what his biography calls the first company-wide crossover in the history of comics. The series was first called Cosmic Champions; it was renamed after Mattel's focus groups responded well to the words "secret" and "wars," and Mattel's involvement shaped the storyline and character designs.
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars ran 12 issues from May 1984 to April 1985. In it, an all-powerful being called the Beyonder builds a planet, Battleworld, and transports heroes and villains there with a simple command to slay their enemies in exchange for whatever they desire.
It was a hit. The series was a best-seller in 1984, selling more copies than any other comic in the previous 25 years.
Issue 8: the black suit
In issue #8, cover-dated December 1984, Spider-Man finds a machine on Battleworld during a stretch of the story involving heroes such as Thor and the Hulk, and it gives him a new black costume. He first takes it for a simple piece of alien technology. The suit can change shape and produce its own webbing.
The timing is a quirk collectors love to argue about. Marvel's regular titles had already shown Spider-Man back on Earth in the black costume in The Amazing Spider-Man #252, cover-dated May 1984, months before Secret Wars #8 explained where it came from. That makes #252 the first appearance of the costume and Secret Wars #8 its origin.
Later stories by Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz revealed that the costume was a living alien symbiote vulnerable to fire and loud sound. Spider-Man rejected it, and writer David Michelinie turned it into a villain: the symbiote bonded with the journalist Eddie Brock, with a cameo in The Amazing Spider-Man #299 in April 1988 and a full debut as Venom in #300 in May 1988, with visual features designed by Todd McFarlane.
Shooter, Zeck and a fan from Illinois
Jim Shooter was born on September 27, 1951, in Pittsburgh. He sold his first stories to DC Comics at 14, beginning with Adventure Comics #346 in July 1966, and served as Marvel's editor-in-chief from January 1, 1978, to April 15, 1987. He died on June 30, 2025, at age 73, at his home in Nyack, New York.
The idea of a new costume did not start with Marvel's staff. In 1982 a fan named Randy Schueller of Norridge, Illinois, submitted a concept for a new Spider-Man suit, and Shooter bought it for $220. Mike Zeck designed the costume as it appeared, and Mike Zeck and Bob Layton handled pencils across the series, with John Beatty inking.
Mattel went on to produce action figures and toys of Spider-Man in the black costume, which helped make the design familiar far beyond comic shops.
Common, but still contested
High-grade copies of Secret Wars #8 are plentiful, part of a series that outsold every comic of the previous 25 years. A September 2021 snapshot of CGC's census showed 4,101 copies at 9.8 and 26 graded higher. That depth is why a 9.8 trades in the hundreds of dollars rather than the thousands.
In late September 2026, CGC 9.8 copies with white pages sold online for roughly $700 to $750 apiece, with one at $880. The book is the 9.8 entry here; copies graded by other services, such as a PSA 9.6 that sold for $352 on September 30, 2026, are a different market.
The book's most valuable artifact is not a printed copy at all. On January 13, 2022, the original art for story page 25, the page that first explains Spider-Man's black costume, drawn by Mike Zeck on 10-by-15-inch Bristol board, sold at auction for $3,360,000, the highest price ever paid for an interior page of comic book art at the time.
From Battleworld to the movies
Secret Wars led to a sequel, Secret Wars II, in 1985, a 2015 reimagining and adaptations on television and in video games. The black suit and its symbiote became one of the longest-running threads in Spider-Man's story.
Venom appeared on film in Spider-Man 3 in 2007, played by Topher Grace, and headlined his own film, Venom, in 2018 with Tom Hardy. Every version traces back to the machine Spider-Man walked into in issue #8.
The numbers
- Cover date
- December 1984
- Series length
- 12 issues, May 1984 to April 1985
- CGC 9.8, September 2021
- 4,101 copies
- Graded above 9.8, September 2021
- 26 copies
- Costume concept fee
- $220, paid in 1982
- Page 25 original art
- $3,360,000, January 13, 2022
Timeline
A 14-year-old Jim Shooter's first story for DC appears in Adventure Comics #346.
Shooter becomes Marvel's editor-in-chief.
Marvel buys fan Randy Schueller's idea for a new Spider-Man costume for $220.
Secret Wars #1 is cover-dated; The Amazing Spider-Man #252 shows the black costume for the first time.
Secret Wars #8, cover-dated December 1984, shows Spider-Man getting the black costume.
Secret Wars ends with issue #12.
Secret Wars II begins.
Shooter's tenure as Marvel editor-in-chief ends.
Venom makes his full debut in The Amazing Spider-Man #300.
Venom appears on film in Spider-Man 3.
Venom, starring Tom Hardy, is released.
CGC's census shows 4,101 copies of #8 at 9.8 and 26 higher.
Original art for story page 25 sells at auction for $3,360,000.
Jim Shooter dies at 73 in Nyack, New York.
The world in 1984
Michael Jackson wins a record eight Grammy Awards.
Bruce Springsteen releases Born in the U.S.A., the first CD manufactured in the United States.
Ghostbusters and Gremlins open in theaters.
The Summer Olympics open in Los Angeles.
Space shuttle Discovery launches on its maiden voyage.
Kathryn D. Sullivan becomes the first American woman to walk in space.
The Detroit Tigers beat the San Diego Padres to win the World Series.
Ronald Reagan wins reelection, carrying 49 states.
Price record
| Date | Price | Kind |
|---|---|---|
| Sep 24, 2026 | $725 | Private saleCGC 9.8, white pages. Completed sale on an online marketplace. |
| Sep 25, 2026 | $739 | Private saleCGC 9.8, white pages. Completed sale on an online marketplace. |
| Sep 28, 2026 | $725 | Private saleCGC 9.8, white pages. Completed sale on an online marketplace. |
| Sep 30, 2026 | $741 | Private saleCGC 9.8. Completed sale on an online marketplace. |
This is an asking price, not a sale. It is what a seller wanted on the date shown. Asking prices often sit above what buyers pay, but an ask is not a ceiling: a sale can land on either side of it. It is not a value.
By reference price, Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #8 is number 78 of 100 in the comics entries of the FLOAT 100. 92 of those 100 rest on a realized sale; the rest carry an asking price or a guide value, and each page says which. Rank within the FLOAT 100 itself (79 here) is editorial: how much an object defines its field, not price alone.
Did you know
- Secret Wars was nearly called Cosmic Champions; Mattel's focus groups liked the words "secret" and "wars."
- Spider-Man's black suit appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man #252 seven months before Secret Wars #8 showed where he got it.
- The idea for the black costume came from a fan, who was paid $220.
- A single page of original art from this issue sold for $3,360,000 in 2022.
- Jim Shooter sold his first comic story to DC when he was 14.
- Secret Wars outsold every other comic of the previous 25 years.
How this page is made
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- The story
- Researched from published records and checked fact by fact. Updated Oct 3, 2026.
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